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: Dissecting Orson Scott Card, part 2
Part 1 is here, and this is so long that frankly I'm just going to assume that you've already read Part 1 dissecting this lying piece of bigotry (yes, I'm trying for a googlebomb) without trying to summarise it here, but I am going to summarise part 2 here, and here's why: In part 1, I was able to confront OSC's lies with facts. In part 3, where OSC gets really ugly, I'll be able to do that again.
In part 2, I admit, I'm basically meeting his opinions about civilisation with my opinions about civilisation. Honestly, you could just as well read the lj-cut text to find out what his opinions are - his arguments in part 3 will depend on them.
( OSC says: Pleasure is bad: sex outside of marriage is bad: either/both will destroy civilisation )
( OSC says: children are important and the longest-surviving cultures depend on monogamy to ensure that everyone has children )
( OSC says: men naturally want to have sex and women naturally don't have any choice about it; only civilisation protects women from men's natural wants )
( OSC says: Women can't and shouldn't trust men not to run riot unless men know they'll be punished: civilisation is the only way to do this. )
( OSC says: Civilisation is unnatural: we all have to live in a state of suppressed sexual desire )
Part 1 is here, and this is so long that frankly I'm just going to assume that you've already read Part 1 dissecting this lying piece of bigotry (yes, I'm trying for a googlebomb) without trying to summarise it here, but I am going to summarise part 2 here, and here's why: In part 1, I was able to confront OSC's lies with facts. In part 3, where OSC gets really ugly, I'll be able to do that again.
In part 2, I admit, I'm basically meeting his opinions about civilisation with my opinions about civilisation. Honestly, you could just as well read the lj-cut text to find out what his opinions are - his arguments in part 3 will depend on them.
( OSC says: Pleasure is bad: sex outside of marriage is bad: either/both will destroy civilisation )
( OSC says: children are important and the longest-surviving cultures depend on monogamy to ensure that everyone has children )
( OSC says: men naturally want to have sex and women naturally don't have any choice about it; only civilisation protects women from men's natural wants )
( OSC says: Women can't and shouldn't trust men not to run riot unless men know they'll be punished: civilisation is the only way to do this. )
( OSC says: Civilisation is unnatural: we all have to live in a state of suppressed sexual desire )